Saturday Tech Only Live Stream

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Happy Saturday, everybody. It is bright, sunny, here.
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I am looking out on a, yeah, almost looks like a green pasture, at least to me. And so, welcome, everybody to the the tech only Saturday. I have a special guest with us this morning, because we’d like to talk to everybody about splitting your a B, C, H a, and getting E cash and that type of thing. Welcome. Jeddah Red.
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Hi, good morning everyone.
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So, you know, Jedda influenced me to do mine to catch my.
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My, to get my E cash. Sorry, I’ve gotta turn off my Do Not Disturb, because my family is starting their texting Saturday, which means there’s probably going to be 100 text messages to read when I’m off this. But what we’ve, what, what I’ve, what I’ve found is a little bit of information. What Jeddah has found is a lot of information.
1:13
So, we were wanting just to share with everybody that the ins and outs of, yeah, claiming your, your E cash. And, so, you know, this is the document, that whenever I worked with someone, and Jared use this document or Jesus, now, this, by the back of your hand.
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Now, I’ve gotten to understand process pretty well by now, and I would comment, this document is generally the process you would follow, However, it doesn’t always work the way it says it does.
1:51
Ah, I guess the folks, I don’t know if they’re all listening, but I’ve helped probably close to about 15 different people now, claim there E cash.
2:03
What you should be referred to as …, or Beach Bitcoin, ABC, are just gone through a rebranding and a real denomination, um, ratio of a million to one.
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So originally, yeah, Bitcoin, ABC, or Bitcoin Cash ABC, it’s referred different, completely different places.
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But basically, Bitcoin Cash in a fork back last November on a 1 to 1.
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If you had Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Cash PB.
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D or ….
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And for a long time, you know the, it wasn’t worth a lot and then it was re rebrand.
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Denominate correctly.
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Read, Intuit, a million to one ratio.
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Super, every Bitcoin, Cash or BCG you may have had cash equivalent is a million times that.
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So, George, just put up the client much more cash.
3:19
So if you just generally speaking, for every Bitcoin cash that converted split GHA, it’d be currently worth about $200 now.
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So when it comes to free money, I’ll take it, It’s not like you’re gonna go through a lot of effort or 20 bucks, you’re gonna, you’re gonna get 200 and now 230 dollars and 90% equivalent for each Bitcoin cash that you can split.
3:50
And when I said we follow that process generally, um, I’m trying it with with a couple folks, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
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Fortunately, we’re able to still claim, in many cases, most of their E cash.
4:08
That may still be in a wallet.
4:10
I just helped somebody the other day where we found his exodus Wallach.
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There are some, some E cash. There you can’t do it in Exodus.
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But if you go out to E Cash Explore, and you put in the right public address, you can see a balance.
4:32
Yeah, nice.
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And George, if I’m if I’m rambling, tell me. No, no, no, OK, This is perfect. Because there’s so many different ways to do it, and it’s, like, one of the things that, I’ve found is that?
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If people have paid me, or I’ve gotten Bitcoin Cash, that the older well, The cash basically can travel with that.
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And I’ve been able to claim on people’s Bitcoin Cash that they’ve sent me because they didn’t break out the E cash off of it before they sent it out.
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So, that, you know, there’s another scenario that, that plays out. So, you may be able to collect it now.
5:19
And in the future, depending on what beseech you get into your life, it’s just a weird.
5:28
It’s not like a fork that I’ve ever dealt with kind of thing. It seems that, it’s going to be kinda a little bit ongoing.
5:37
Correct.
5:38
And what’s interesting is that when we, we claim to see cash for some people, you look in their wallets and there’s, there’s, let me just say there’s two just articles, correct?
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You need to use two wallets to do this one is called the light from our electronic cash, which is essentially a bitcoin cash wallet. And the light from ABC, which is your key cash wallet.
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You will need to use both of those two effectively and safely split your coins.
6:14
But, to your point, George, what you had said previously, people will find that they may have transacted last December and seek points out or receive coins. And there will be a portion of the coins that came in.
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But you can still split.
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That’s because we probably came from someone who and not split.
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There are coins.
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Or the exchanges hatten cleaned, all, stolen all of your cash.
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You got it on an exchange.
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So for awhile, they’re mostly in December, for people, which, to me, get some E cash into their wallet, even though the cutoff date or the snapshot was November 15th, not so much anymore.
7:02
Yeah, unless you’re doing the person to person transfer, if you’re getting your Bitcoin cash from an exchange, it’s just very unlikely that, that would have any associated E cash.
7:16
Yeah, they’re probably stripping it up because I know I worked with someone on the other side of the pond yesterday and he had sent it to crack because crack and said, supposedly, I haven’t looked back that they would do the split there and they actually didn’t. So, we’re hoping to find quite a bit of cash, and we we did not. We found, believe it or not, Jedi was 88 E cash.
7:47
So like, you know, just pennies. So it wasn’t really worth it, but we had a great conversation anyways. Just so, you know, so really, there is not a, you can go through this document. And in the show notes today, there will be a link to let me just say.
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Um, I had put down on a couple of the kellen Rams.
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Am I off or can you hear me? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go go go go!
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Hello?
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Can you hear me?
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I can hear you. Hear me? Didn’t hear me? Yeah. I can hear you.
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OK, good.
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I posted a couple of telegrams how people can find their extended public key to …
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key, which is totally safe, because it does not.
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You give access to your your, your private key to control your coins.
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But when you use the X pub Addressee, you plug it into one of those wallets.
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You’ll see your whole history and all of the different public addresses that bitcoin cash users, it’s very comparable to bitcoin, Mike Coyne, where when you transact, you may get a different ad every time.
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And that different addresses privacy feature of those coins.
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Sue?
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If you take a single address, you’re actually this wallet that had bitcoin Cash, and not realize that there might be multiple addresses used, you may not see any cash.
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But by using that extended public address or extended public key, You’ll see you’ll see all the addresses that were ever used. And that’s how we actually found people had coins in their extra. This wallet. We had people on coins and ledger.
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Then we’re actually empty any bitcoin cash.
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I hope this isn’t making your head spin too much.
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But basically, someone had Penn Center points off the ground, that Bitcoin Cash points off the cube and brown, and one way or another, the coins have been split inadvertently.
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Before that, I think I know how that happened, but it really will make your head blow up to explain how that happens.
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But zero point B, you, you can possibly still have your E cash coins on your ledger.
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You can possibly still have E cash coins in your exodus.
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Even though you may have teach your Bitcoin cash off to Caleb and Brown or an exchange, something like that.
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Um, so it’s well worth, I’m happy to check people’s wallets for them.
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And if there’s nothing there, I’ll tell you, there is something there. You will work out how to, how to recover those.
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Um, every time I’m home bound to teach people now and every time, I think it’s going to be a cakewalk.
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It turns into a long haul.
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And, the simplest, most, two, um, no effort should, Oh, this is going to be easy. And you get into it and know it’s not just like so convoluted.
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Yeah.
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Fortunately, I’ve gotten to a point where I can avoid asking anyone to use their private keys, um, and we only do that as an absolute last resort, um, for people wanting to claim it and they have enough points to make them work. That, let me put it that way.
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If you have a fraction, if you have, you know, anything under a million E cash, which would be the equivalent of one BCH.
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It’s up to you, but it may or may not be worth the effort to go through.
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But, if you have, you know, five, or six, or 10, or help people, that had, you know, many, many Bitcoin cash from years ago, um, it’s well worth well worth their effort.
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Um, well worth your effort to client, because it’s free money.
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I don’t know how else to put it, but it’s free money.
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And, if you can claim $520,000 of free money out, I don’t care who you are, and that’s a lot of money.
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So, um.
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Yeah, it’s definitely worth pursuing, I’m more than happy to, to check people extended humbling key, um, to see whether or not they have any E cash available.
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Yeah, and, and you know, one strategy that people can think of if if you do have to crack your ledger, crack your treasure.
12:56
You can always wait until you sell the majority are coins off that. And then go back and harvest that. I know that that has come up with people who have not claimed litecoin cash because they didn’t have it in the right wallet.
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When the split happen, Oh my gosh, Back in February, I know, because I was, I was, I was on the beach in February and I forgot to move that before I went on vacation. And, you know, I was able to claim just the way I did things.
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But, you know, you can always wait, Claim it later, just remember that.
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Put a note in so that you don’t necessarily have to move your coins off because, you know, once you crack your, your hardware wallet, I, I personally consider compromised because the, you know, I’ve narrowed my number of ledgers down and there’s a lot on it. And, I just, I don’t want anything to happen to mine.
14:04
And I don’t want to have, anything happened two years, so, OK, Jeddah, you are more than welcome to stay on line. I’m just gonna go through a couple of things that people have requested support on.
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And I think it’s kind of helpful to, to walk people through some of this because let’s do, today, I’m going to talk about Yeah.
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The Ethereum network, basically.
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And it’s, you know, what people are experiencing, and not experiencing, and some of the confusion, and that type of thing. And, by the way, thank you, Jeff, for, for coming online, and explaining. And, you know, he, he was my inspiration to, to get mine. So, I’m glad that you, you kinda pushed me in that direction to Declaim.
15:05
So, so, we’re going to cover a little bit of, let’s see, of Ledger Live, because there’s some confusion on people’s when they write in, and they’re like, where do I store? Ship. Well, ship is an ERC 20.
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So, because it’s an ERC 20, you would send it to your Ethereum Wallet, and through some of the e-mails that I’ve gotten from people, here is ledger Life, for anybody that has never logged in. This is what it looks like when you look at an Ethereum account that, that you have to setup.
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Yeah, in Lead Your Life, this is one of my Ethereum accounts. And it has OMG, Sherbet, and populous. And what I think has happened in the past is that some people have put coins. Because I know dos dos network would not show up when dos was first released.
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And then, know, later on Leger released a new version of Lead your life.
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And you were able to see dos.
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And so, that will continue to happen as people add ERC twenties, or different.
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Well, mainly ERC twenties To there Leger Wallet in Ethereum.
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Because what has to happen on the back end is that leger through Ledger Live has to add that contract, intellect your life so that you can see it. So, a couple of e-mails that I’ve gotten from people, they’ve said, you know, I can’t see my kedah like, OK, well, maybe akita, you know, does not have the contract yet And And in fact, I thought it did and it did. So. one thing that I want to make people aware of is that this little black area, I kinda blacked out my tokens and what? I don’t want people to know what I have. But you can see what coins I have. What, right, now, I think, some times, people don’t necessarily see parts of ledger Live, and if you look below, it says show eight tokens, or show tokens eight. So there’s eight additional tokens that are displayed, and so, when you click on that, show tokens, it kinda drops down. And it shows you the other tokens that were hidden.
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And one of those is Akita Kid, you know, and so when you’re looking for, for that token, make sure that you’re viewing all the tokens, the hidden tokens. They’re not going to show like some Ethereum wallet could have, now 20. And so, that they will only show.
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Obviously, I think it was three, the top three, by value. And then they will hide the others, just because they don’t want to take up so much space. I have a 27 inch monitor. Love it. And I also have a 13 inch MacBook Pro. I hate the sides of that screen because I don’t get to see that much.
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And so this could be the same thing for anybody that is, you know, on a 13 inch. When I work with people on a 13 inch monitor, it’s hard to get all this information.
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So, this is what it kinda looks like. And, so, you know, definitely when you’re back in this view and it says show tokens eight.
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It’s saying that there are some additional tokens that you want to to view and click on that little blue area where it says show tokens and you’ll get to this page. Well. it’ll extend it out and show you all the coins that are there.
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What people have also commented on is that they will see right here the value. You can see USD coin. USD see, basically I have $134 and 48%.
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That doesn’t change too often, because it’s a stable coin.
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But you can see, down below, Doss network token has no value trace, no value, unit trade, no value.
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It’s no value according to ledger Live. Now, there is value to those those tokens tokens, and you can go to coin, Gecko. You can go to Coin Market Cap, and you can see the value per token. You can do, you know, what used to be black folio? And I will continue to call it Black Valeo.
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You can go to block fully and see that Leger Live. Let me give you a little bit of history.
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I don’t know when they started at ERC twenties, but back in the day when you first use Lead Your Life the only thing you could see in an Ethereum Wallet was Ethereum.
20:04
You couldn’t see ERC twenties. And so you had to use other tools that we’re going to look at Next. And so, Leger Live, is not necessarily the place where I do a lot of my ERC 20.
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Maintaining. it’s a place that I can really, quickly, see, but it doesn’t give me some of the information, that I may want, or that may be easier, Easier handled in another platform. So just because Doss network token does not show a value here, doesn’t mean that there’s not a price for it.
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It just means that ledger does not subscribing to some data feed that will put a price here.
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So don’t think that ledger that your ledger is going out to a like coin market cap or coin Gecko to get the price.
21:01
Ledger live is going back to a server with ledger itself, showing and pulling that data for the price feeds. I know sometimes, in the past, there, was, like, a bad price feed and you’d look at your leisure life and be like, Oh, my gosh, I’m worth $28,000 billion.
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This is great, too bad. It was just a bad feed, and it would fix itself after a little bit of time. And so that’s why things could get totally out of whack.
21:33
So, this morning, I was working with someone and we were doing a, we’re working on, we’re working on theta.
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And so, you know, we’re going through the process of staking some things and and he said to me, Well, it aired out. And usually, that’s because there’s a setting that’s incorrect on your ledger, a hardware device and it’s usually contract data is not allowed.
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And he read it to me and that phrase contract data, was no longer there.
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It was something else.
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And so I, I guess I did not have my ledger up to date, but on the new 1.9 point 9 version of the Ethereum app.
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It no longer asks you about contract data.
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It asks you blind signing.
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So if you see blind signing enabled, it’s OK. It’s nothing wrong with your ledger. It’s just a different set of words that they’ve decided to put in place. And instead of allow contract data, they’re just saying, Blindsiding. I don’t know, because, literally, it’s been just a couple of hours. And I took my son to soccer.
22:58
I have not done some research to see if allow contract data is just on by default, because we really need that, because that’s what, you know, and the thorium ERC 20 is, is a contract, is a smart contract. I’m not sure what blind signing is, right now.
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Because it was done on a the Theta network that throws a little wrench into it and I have not tried to send anything via the Ethereum network.
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So, just want to let you know.
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This is a change out there, and you may see that, and if you do, don’t freak out. It’s just the latest version on 1.9 point 9 on the Ethereum map that you will see.
23:49
So, let me let me back up a little bit.
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So, back in the day, you could not see any ERC 20 Tokens. What you needed to do was you needed to go to something called my Ether Wallet, or, as it’s now branded, mew. Mew was the only one that you could really use, back then. It was the only one that I really used, it was the one that everybody trusted, and then came, my crypto.
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And my crypto is a, another online, web based Ethereum wallet.
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And one of the things that I like about my crypto over, my Ethereum wallet is that there is an app that you can download and install on your computer.
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And so I install that app, and that’s the app that I use when I want to gain access to my Ethereum based wallets, tokens, that type of thing.
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And so, what I kinda wanted to just share with you, is that there are other ways to look at your ERC 20 Tokens.
25:09
This may also change with pulse chain, where, you know, kind of getting into that and see where and how those will be stored.
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But there are other alternatives to viewing things in leger.
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And let me go over because there is an online wallet that you can click here and it will take you to your, your wallet that you can connect with meta masque, treasurer, ledger.
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And what I’m going to do, Let me go back real quick. This is the online wallet.
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And the other alternative, they keep on moving it, but it was scrolling down.
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Yeah, and here.
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Because I’m on a Mac, it shows my Mac that it’s, it’s a download for the mac OS but you can download and install the desktop version and I’ll show you what that looks like. Me.
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Move this over.
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Change the window, OK, And so, this is an app that you run on your Desktop.
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The advantage of that, having an app as compared to a browser base, is because sometimes browser based applications give you errors, Give you issues. When you’re not just easily browsing a regular webpage.
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Meaning, when you’re trying to connect your leger, your hardware wallet, um, with, you know, the issue that came up with Chrome 91, that broke things.
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And if you don’t want to have dependencies on browsers, when they change, they may break things. You can use an app like my crypto. And so, it’s very similar to start all over. So you can kind of see, it’s very similar to what appears on the webpage. Let me log in to my ledger real quick.
27:39
Yeah, OK. So you know you can use it with a ledger or treasurer.
27:45
If you have a private key, a key store, pneumonic craze, get rid of those and get to a ledger or a treasure. I don’t care which hardware wallet you use.
27:54
I know some people use other hardware wallets, and that’s great, whatever you feel comfortable with, but Leger has so many apps that are built for it.
28:05
It seems like most of the any new coin that comes out, they would build it for leger before they build it for treasure.
28:13
That may change in the future, but, no. That’s what you will will need.
28:20
Not to confuse you but you can do other networks like energy web token. You can use this for pulse chain. You’re gonna be able to use this because you can change networks. We’re not gonna get into that right now because I don’t want to confuse everybody but it’s pretty flexible. So what we’re gonna do is we’re going along with the ledger and it’s going to say connect to lead your wallet.
28:45
OK, I must have enough, I must have another wallet because it broke like this last time when I was checking this morning. Let me see what I might have opened.
28:57
Nope.
28:58
I’m going to quit it and then come back to it.
29:04
I love how I can break things like that. Hold on.
29:09
Just a second.
29:18
Really, I did check this out this morning to make sure that it would work and it did work.
29:25
So, let’s try that again.
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Quick.
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OK, we’re going to go to ledger and say connect a Wallet, there we go.
29:40
I just needed to quit, and then reconnect, one of the advantages of using something like my crypto, I guess you might be able to do it on the, the web page, is that you can label these different accounts. And I can go, and I can see more, and this is the account that I used, when people needed to send things. for the DTA conversion, and for the med conversion.
30:09
Anybody that’s done the med conversion, they screwed things up on their side, even though I got the tokens in a timely manner, they did not convert them. So, I’ve had words with them, and many e-mails back and forth, And we will be participating on the December first conversion.
30:27
But, another story. So, you can go back. You can grab the first address, if you want. And, let’s go in and look at that.
30:37
And it’s basically, you know, a, an Ethereum based wallet, that you can have tokens added to it, or that you can have your tokens scanned.
30:54
So, if you don’t see your ERC 20 token, in this, you can scan for tokens, it’ll go through it will try to find them.
31:06
I did have these coins in here prior into those are that’s why they, they showed up. And the other is kind of going back to where we originally were, and Lead your Life, if Ledger, does not have a contract, one of the ERC 20 contracts. Well, let me simplify this.
31:25
If you get a new coin, and you can’t see it in leger Live, then you can add that coin here by clicking on Add Custom Token.
31:35
And you could put the address, and the decimal, and the token then that type of thing. I think really, nowadays, you just need the address. And all of the information gets sucked in, but this is a tool that you can use. if you can’t see a token on Leger live.
31:52
And if you can’t see the token, because you’ve opened all the large enough to see all the tokens, You know, make sure you click that little Show tokens at the bottom, so that you see all of them.
32:08
Then, you can use a app, oh, sorry. You know what? I switch Windows and did not switch the app.
32:16
Go back to, Lead Your Life.
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Make sure you can, you know, click this little show tokens so that you see all of them. And if they, If none of the, if the token that you’re looking for, does not show up here, you can go back to the My Crypto app.
32:38
And you can also do it in meta mask, But we’re not going to cover Madam Masks today. But, you know, I just wanted to give you alternatives to using Ledger Live for ERC 20 tokens.
32:54
And so, that’s, that’s kind of it, and I’ll look for any questions on that.
32:59
The other thing that I wanted to kind of go over, because someone pointed it out, and I was like, ah, man, I totally screwed up on this, but, you know, in my mind, I think everybody has a ledger X, or A treasure model T, and those are all USB C connectors. And when I put these examples, or suggestions of cables for the, the live stream that was on Thursday, I forgot to add things, kec connectors that are, that are micro USB connectors for people with ledger S’s and treasure model ones. So, I’ve added those to the live stream. I’ll add those down. At the bottom of this, I personally think it’s important to keep extra cables on hand.
33:54
Hashtag one: If anything happens, you have a backup cable, especially when we’re getting close to selling.
34:04
This is also a really good troubleshooting piece to carry with you, that it could be that your ledger is broken. It could be that your browser is broken. It could be your computer’s broken. And it could be your cable is broken. So, you know, checking a cable is much easier than trying some of the others.
34:29
So, you know, cables do wear out, cables, kink. People borrow them, destroy them, they’re lost.
34:38
Keep some extra cables on hand, yall. I sleep better, I have a ton downstairs and I probably bought too many.
34:45
But I always like to have more than less because, let’s be honest.
34:52
The supply chain is not the way it used to be about a year ago.
34:57
And it’s better to have something now than trying to get it later when things might be sold out. I think, the last time I checked with Leger, it was a three week waiting period.
35:11
I have an extra ledger. In fact, I’m going to have more extra ledgers because I’m kind of paring things down. so, just, you know, think about keeping an extra cable or two in your possession just so it’s easier to troubleshoot things.
35:30
So, we are going to go to questions.
35:34
Let me get out of this put that one up.
35:40
OK, this is from Tracy.
35:42
Uh, George, Good morning, George.
35:45
I have 100% of my theta and T fuels secured on wallet dot data token dot org with my treasurer. I’m not familiar with the ledger as 99% of my coins are on exodus and treasure.
35:58
So I don’t really know how to set it up, um, with Theta or T fuel.
36:05
Thanks, Jeddah, read my 24 Word, Seed phrase for my ledger and my treasure are exactly the same. Yet, you know, this goes on. Hold on.
36:14
I went to the wallet dot theta token dot org and had my ledger on I got the message that what it wasn’t wants to authenticate using a registered security key. Can you help with those of us with treasures with the exact steps and what to do on the ledger on our ledger? so we can authenticate the transactions and be able to send our theta T fuel? Thanks for all. You do.
36:41
Hey, hey, Jetter you there?
36:45
Yes, I have, Yeah, have you, have you done theta with A, with a treasurer?
36:54
I have, and what launches some kind of bridge?
36:58
Yeah.
36:59
Treasure weren’t brooch in the process and it was one of the things, just keep massaging it until it works, the you.
37:11
And I don’t know if the key warning showed up we connecting the ledgers.
37:18
You just read them?
37:20
Yeah, and it’s see, that key warning should not be on the ledger.
37:25
I’m going to go there right now, I think I really don’t have anything, I’m this wallet, but.
37:32
Usually when it says the key authenticate using the key, you, know, I immediately you become key or you began and I think what it just means in that case is, it’s a, it’s a generic term for the hardware wallet Yeah, and I don’t remember seeing that on the ledger.
37:52
I’ll show you real quick connection with the ledger because it’s, you know, ledger treasure or it’s, you know, no real difference here when I connect with the ledger and I’ll hit continue.
38:04
Don’t ask Oh yep, I’m sorry. So, right there, while spinning right above it shows a theorem and it has an derivation path.
38:14
First, last, 60 slash hero’s slash zero.
38:18
Sometimes you have to change that if your addresses don’t show up.
38:26
Yeah, Yeah.
38:26
And typically, if you’re setting it up for the first time because to get them on your ledger, you or really any hardware, well, you’d have to go in here and set it up. So if, if some people like to change things, I like to leave the default because it just makes it much easier when I go back and six months later and forget everything that I’ve done. But that is true. You can do it this.
38:48
And just because it says Lead Your Life does not mean it’s leger live. If you put it in Leger Live, there are issues for that. But these are just different basically memory paths.
38:59
And when, like this part you guys don’t see when, When I click on Continue, there’s something that pops up that says, you know, the wallet that it wants to connect to. You don’t see the popup, but you would if you use the ledger and I’m gonna say connect up and it’s going to be Yeah, There we go.
39:17
So, I don’t see necessarily the the Tracy, the error that you might have seen where it says I got the message that it wants to authenticate using a registered security key, that when you may just have to do a screenshot and send it in, we can take a look.
39:37
But this is how, you know, easy it is to get into your you know, your theta wallet using the ledger, the theta or sorry, the treasurer will be will be a bit different.
39:50
Yeah, George.
39:52
I’m, I didn’t see her actual question, but it sounded like.
39:57
did she use the E seed phrase from an exodus wallet on her treasurer to where they know you’re both the same because exodus and Leger they take slightly different derivation pass.
40:15
And you might see coins. And that’s where I said before, you may have to drop down and pick one of the other options. If you can find the address you’re looking for.
40:24
Yeah, especially if you put it in one type of hardware wallet and you, you migrated over to another, or if you imported a key as compared to something else.
40:35
That, that may be an issue, but, you know, some of these are so specific that people shouldn’t worry too much.
40:43
And, yeah, Tracy, send a screenshot, because seen, not just the error code, but where the error code occurs really is helpful on figuring out where things might be broken, because I don’t remember that, that error code on on Theta.
41:06
Um, Brian. Thank you. Thank you. Brian says, I have a good sense of humor.
41:11
I try to live laugh at life, but we’ll see some time because it’s It’s not that funny, but, hopefully, most of the time it is. Good morning to you, Elaine.
41:23
OK, the next one, would you would it be viable strategy for today, moving forward, swap out some crypto, BCH, then try and claims and E cash, or Will, or was the snapshot before today? The snapshot was way before it today.
41:42
I wouldn’t try to, too, get any BCH from an exchange or simple swap or anything like that. Just for the cash, you, most likely, you’re not gonna get any, and it’s not worth the fees. So, I would say, nope, that’s not a good strategy. If you had it in the past. That’s the best strategy of all.
42:06
OK, this is from Lynn if I bought BCH, Kaitlin Brown, around April, 2021, does this apply to me? I’m thinking, this only applies to people who bought BCH pre 2021? Yeah, pre 2021, but you gotta remember. If you took possession of the BCH, you would be able to do it. If you left it on an exchange, you know, they’re going to take that off. I don’t know If KLM of Brown has a policy where when BCH comes in, they strip out all the cash.
42:40
I mean, if I owned an exchange, I’d have that policy. If someone had not stripped out their, their cash, any BCH that came in, I would strip it out and take it, because that’s a part of crypto.
42:55
And that’s what, you know, is, a, is a sound policy for any exchange. And that’s why exchanges don’t, I would say the majority of exchanges do not give you the split, unless it’s specifically states that it does, Because that’s, Honestly, that’s one way that they can make a lot of extra money, extra coin.
43:22
If they hold it, it’s theirs, if you hold that, it’s yours, and you can, you know, take any split fork, or airdrop, when you hold it, OK.
43:36
Partito, sorry for the first question, sounds like it was a snapshot date. Can you please repeat?
43:41
Yeah, the snapshot date was back, with, was, not this year.
43:47
So, if you were, let me look back years, Yeah, the snapshot date was way before today. And so, if you held them awhile ago, you can see if you hold any right now, if any, were not, basically stripped away. And if they were stripped away, you’re not going to have any. If they weren’t stripped away and you have hold those BCH, then you might be able to claim the the cache, but it really just depends if we’d have to take a look.
44:18
Uh, Lynn asks, Jeddah Read, do you have tax information available? Yes. And I will give you what that is.
44:27
If you go to, um, but khan academy dot net, and you go to services, consulting services.
44:41
The reason why this is kinda little offset is that J used to be here. And he does and does not do any consulting at all. So, I just have to rework this page, but there’s Mrs. Neo. Myself, Nate. Nate, I didn’t include on this call, because I haven’t had much interaction with with Nate on BCH a and Jeddah has kinda really been heading that up.
45:08
So, that’s why invited Jeddah. But Nate is, is a great guy and is doing consulting.
45:15
By the way, just so everybody is very clear George, Nate and Jeddah Red, we’re all three different people. And we do not report to each other. We do. We share a friendship. But that’s it. Everybody has their own independent consultant so don’t think that I know what Jeddah, Reds doing or what needs doing, what their specialties are. We do talk about things and work out some issues. But if you go to the top the Consulting Services page, you will be able to click on his contact information and get a hold of Jeddah Read.
45:54
George, I’m also on the telegram. Some lot of people reach out to me that way.
45:58
Yet, the hard part is, we don’t publish to tell it here, so yeah.
46:09
I know, you know, there are so many times, like, yeah, if you e-mail in to me, I’m using the help, I might know where there is A a third, where there’s a telegram that might talk about things that we all talk about, but, you know, for anybody knew that. We used to have telegram channels. And it just got really weird. People were selling things on it, that we’re representing themselves as an expert, and they worked.
46:41
And when Jay bring someone to the live stream, like we just had George Voronezh talking about the Beamer.
46:51
Jay knows that this person is an expert in the field, and he will bring them in. Just like, we’ll go up here to services, crypto services.
47:03
And these people have been cleared, you know, quote unquote cleared by Jay.
47:11
And so, you know, cable and brown, a lot of us use Carolyn Brown, I would say a majority of people use Carolyn Brown, private banking strategies, that, as Seth Advance, and I, you’ve heard interviews that I’ve had with certain events. So, we know that they are straight shooters. We know that they know what they’re doing.
47:29
So, you know, the prior telegram rooms were people were selling and promoting things that we had no idea who they were, what their knowledge was if they were even straight shooters or if they were bad actors.
47:47
And uh, both Jay and I agreed that no, we don’t want people in a telegram room that we’re promoting getting bad advice from someone that we don’t know. And so we basically just said nope. There’s only one telegram room. And that is the quiet room, where no one can post, except for every time there’s a posting. It’s published there so people can see what the latest is.
48:15
So, There we go.
48:19
You can go in and grab, and click that button, and contact Jetter and if you’d like OK, this is from Sanford. I want to withdraw USD T from Cato Exchange.
48:33
They offer the following networks: BTC Omni Eith, ERC 20 Tron, TRC, 20 B C S C fifth, 20 I you know, like, There are they offer a large number of networks and USD T. USD. See, I would probably say, you know, mainly USD T has a large number of networks. And you need to make sure that you select the right network. And I know I had a, I think I did this on the live stream. Let me see if I can bring that image up. And I’ll show you what.
49:15
Ku Coin has.
49:18
Today’s AMA, OK, here we go.
49:22
I think it’s this one, Ooops.
49:28
So, Ku Coin is very similar to what your question is on gate IO.
49:38
that if you with Dror CIB on Coo Coo Coyne, you can withdraw it as an ERC 20, or a K C C and K C C is there, uh, their own network, their crew coin network.
49:54
And if you withdraw it here to the … Network, it will stay on the coin network, what that network is like. I don’t know I’ve never used it.
50:05
But an ERC 20 is the Ethereum based network, and that is the one that you are going to want to use, unless you know what you’re doing. Otherwise.
50:16
Now, the others that you mentioned that Tron TRC yeah, TRC 20. That is the Tron Network.
50:27
And it is a token that rides on that Tron network.
50:33
one of the reasons why people would use a different network is that Ethereum is so expensive to send.
50:41
And so if you use another network like The Tron Network, solana, Polygon, those type of networks, you’re going to be paying fewer fees to send the tokens, But you really need to know what you’re doing.
50:56
I’ve had people send the there coins to the wrong network.
51:05
And if you don’t own the address that you’re sending to, on that other network, you’re not going to get your coins back.
51:14
And no, no matter how hard you plead with the exchange, you’re never gonna get it back, because they don’t own that address, either. So, you gotta be really careful on what network you’re sending things to.
51:29
If in doubt, ERC 20, that’s your Ethereum network.
51:34
The other thing that I think people really forget, because I’ve seen it happen too many times, is: if you are unclear, spend the extra money and send a little bit of your token.
51:49
I had someone send You STT, to a contract address, and, they’re never gonna get that back. And, you know, it’s, it’s $8000. that, they’re, they’re out If they would have sent $100 just to check it out and make sure that, it worked, then they would only be, out $100 instead of 8000.
52:12
So, know, if you have not sent something to an address, and you’re unclear, What network? No is this, OK?
52:20
You know, definitely ask someone in the group, send an e-mail talk to Jeddah Read on the to be named Telegram channel.
52:32
But, don’t send everything at once, you know, the and, you know, just be aware of where you’re sending, and if you don’t know something, ask, stop.
52:45
Don’t feel like you have to do something right away. Just ask and make sure that you’re going to be sending to the right network.
52:54
Reamer: Oh, sorry, I have missed your webinar. Thank you, George, for all you do, looking forward to watching later.
53:00
You are welcome. I’m going there later. Well, I may not go today, or tomorrow, I may go Monday, because it’s not very busy then, but he’s going to Costco.
53:12
OK, this is from …. Hi, George. Thanks for doing these live streams, even more frequently, than you originally stated. I’ve purchased some small amount.
53:22
Don’t yell at me ship from Coinbase and no reason to tell you.
53:27
When you go to transfer ERC 20 is, it seems Coinbase takes a huge chunk of coin on the way and it’s not in here. The fees on Ethereum are, are huge.
53:45
And I’ve talked to people that have, like, they’ve bought a small amount. They’ve bought a, an Italian dinner.
53:55
And it cost them a quarter of the Italian dinner to judge as network fees.
54:01
And so, it’s now questioning. I’m now questioning whether or not an Italian dinner is worth it anymore, just because of the network fees. But let me finish this.
54:13
If I purchased some eith, do you think or have experienced that Coinbase will instead take Eith instead of the coin which I am attempting to transfer, I don’t know you’re gonna need to check with with each exchange, it’s a little bit different. Sometimes, they require that. You pay is sometimes, they require that you pay the, in the token itself. And that is all based on the exchange itself.
54:40
And, I’m sorry that you’re kind of getting taken with, with those fees.
54:48
And there’s no, that is, honestly, I probably will never do an Italian dinner on an ERC 20 token, because the fees are too high. When you can buy litecoin, as an Italian dinner, and you can spend less than a penny to send it. I’m all about that.
55:10
But when you have to spend, you know, 20 bucks to send an ERC 20, that’s when I think the network, the smaller tokens, are, should, honestly, should jump ship. And go to another network they could go to the, the theta network. They could go to the tron network.
55:30
They could go to the Yeah, that the pulse chain pulse chain may, you know, really revive some of the smaller tokens. Just because of the fees, because who wants to buy $200 in an ERC 20, as you’re building your position and spend so much on transfer fees. It’s just not worth it.
55:57
OK, and this is from John. Good morning.
56:00
Can you explain any ways, if they do indeed exist to reduce Eith fees, I have a thousand O X on Jack’s liberty, nothing else. Ran out of time during our consult, OK.
56:15
You know, the the easiest way to reduce your fees, honestly is, um, by the time.
56:27
What I found, and I don’t know if that’s true anymore, because I’m not moving them around, but I would move my ERC twenties early Saturday morning.
56:39
Or early Sunday morning, when there’s not that much traffic on the Ethereum network.
56:46
You pay fewer fees for the network.
56:51
When the network is just rockin, like when you see the alt stream north, really start to skyrocket, you’re going to see the same thing happen in your network fees.
57:05
So, um, How can I put this?
57:09
If you think that something is going to Really move as we see, You know, as we follow what what Jay is Showing us, and you think that the … are just going to rocket.
57:28
You may want to think about moving some of those tokens before that happens because when the network gets clogged, you’re going to be paying much more fees in Ethereum, Transactions, sorry, the network fees for Ethereum, so, John, the best thing I can say is, try, try, weekend mornings. That’s what I found.
57:51
But that was months ago, that was back in, let me see, I was there. So that was back in January and February, where I kinda noticed that when I was moving things shifting around.
58:07
right now, there are different networks that they are trying to reduce like Solana. And we’re not gonna get too far into this because it’s gonna confuse people.
58:17
But, there are side, there are things called side chains, There are other networks like, like in the prior question, where they could ride or send their tokens on another network so that they would pay fewer fees.
58:37
one of the things that I’ve kinda suggested to people is that and in your case, that may be different is that if you have a whole bunch of coins on a particular exchange, and a lot of immerse ERC twenty’s, as long as there’s not a high dollar value, what you might want to do is leave them there. I now I now, I always say, take them off.
59:00
But, what you might experience is, if you can.
59:05
Like, if you have five coins, and $200 each, and you have to pull each of those five coins off, and it’s kind of cost you $20 per ERC 22, to pull off that’s 100 bucks. one strategy that you might want to think about is leaving them on that exchange. You don’t have a high high value dollar amount right now, and that when you liquidate them, you liquidate them all into a particular coin.
59:37
For example, if you liquidated a bunch of ERC twenties into litecoin, and then pulled it off the exchange, you would be pain very a very small amount in network fees.
59:54
And so, if you, if you do have ERC twenties that you don’t even care about, you can liquidate them and into a coin that’s very inexpensive to move.
1:00:08
And, you know, and you could potentially get them off and, and either convert it back into something else, or just take that that profit.
1:00:19
So, one example that well, one thing that I suggested to someone I think they had. Oh, my gosh, they had way too many. ERC 20 is on a, an Exchange and I suggested, why don’t you liquidate them on the exchange. You’re still going to be change, you’re gonna still be incurring the fees to sell them. But if you sold them all into a coin, like litecoin, or, or neo or something like that, and then move them off the network.
1:00:48
That way you could potentially be saving a lot of money in, in … fees if you were just going to liquidate them anyways somewhere else so just you know food for thought.
1:01:03
And and kind of go from there.
1:01:06
OK Tracy, I can’t see that it just has a an image path and it does not have a OK, yep. Yes, next thing she says is can’t get the actual screenshot to insert Say the error message. Go ahead and send that to the e-mail, and if we have time, I will add the support e-mail, like, the little thing down below, on one of the pages, on the dot net site, or the dot IO site. And I’ll see if I can login there before we go and take a quick look. I’m not gonna go much past 12, 30 for sure, because I am primary dad today.
1:01:46
Someone is at a conference, down in the basement because, well, no reason to travel nowadays.
1:01:53
But, I’m, I’m on, OK.
1:01:58
Partido I you know, I wish I knew how to pronounce your name better.
1:02:02
You guys, Rock, thanks, George in Jeddah, Red, Daisy, Tooks, SQL, Daisy, Tanya, I was needing to setup a theta wallet and tie with the ledger X george. Have you already done a tutorial on this?
1:02:19
I’ve been doing the YouTube ones, any notes on things to watch out for, to make notes, and the setup process, et cetera. I believe I’m gonna have to look. I’ve done so many. I’ve done so many different things.
1:02:35
I forget that I have done some of them.
1:02:39
And let me just take a quick look on something else, and I’ll bring it over. I believe I have A.
1:02:50
Let me just take a quick look.
1:02:54
I either have it on 1 of 2 sites.
1:03:00
Let’s see.
1:03:06
Just for all of you, this is an older page and I probably need to update the.
1:03:18
The dot net site for all of you. If you get confused with what Black Lab is, that was me way back before I met.
1:03:27
Jay, in fact, I’ve had this domain since 97, and it wasn’t really doing much.
1:03:33
So when people had questions, I put together this website talking about crypto, so there is one landing page, but if you go to black lab dot net, forward slash theta there is a a bunch of videos here on Staking Theta.
1:03:53
And, it will kinda go through. And I think, most of it is still relevant. And this is before, I guess, this is not a video. But this is the days that, I would do screenshots and write it down.
1:04:07
Because there was no way, I was ever going to do a video and talk on air, and, well, things, things definitely change.
1:04:16
There is, on black lab dot net forward slash data.
1:04:20
There are some videos, and then there are, some, are, sorry, there’s some text documents, and then, if you go to the Bitcoin Academy dot net, and I believe under technology and staking, there’s theta, token, and T fuel.
1:04:40
And I think this is more of it talks about Staking in an unstable.
1:04:46
But it should walk you through how to log on and you’re not necessarily creating a wallet like some places the wallet already exists. You’re just accessing the wallet on the theta network when you’re using a hardware wallet because the keys are already in your hardware wallet.
1:05:07
The the the theta wallet is just allowing you to access those, those keys so you’re not really creating a wallet. You’re just accessing it.
1:05:21
Pat, just got in the call.
1:05:25
My question is, if I only had for BCH, is it worth the effort?
1:05:33
That is a good question.
1:05:35
For BCH, could be four million E cash.
1:05:43
No.
1:05:46
It might be worth it.
1:05:49
And we can kind of find out how to get a yeah.
1:05:55
Before, before going through the process, Pat, just e-mail and and, and Jeddah Read and I can help you kind of see if it might be worth it.
1:06:05
Hi, George Jeddah. If you guys, find a solution to Tracey’s issue, will you please share it with us publicly, as I’m having the same issue? Interesting, OK.
1:06:17
Dan.
1:06:20
Yeah, because when you, when you have interactions with so many different pieces like when you are connecting a hardware wallet?
1:06:33
OK, yeah, sorry, Jeddah was just, he’s texting me, he was kinda, I think he’s off because he got arranged. So, basically, because there’s so many different interactions with different things, meaning that you have an operating system Windows, typically or or Mac, and then you have different hardware wallets you know, typically ledger and treasurer, then you have the different browsers.
1:06:59
And so, all of those sometimes don’t work with one another. And sometimes, that the same thing on one computer won’t be the same on another.
1:07:14
OK, sorry.
1:07:16
Nope.
1:07:17
I think you’re OK, now we’re sorry, Jeddah, we’re still recording. Sorry, he was saying he thought he might have closed off the session. So that’s why it’s hard to say this is a fix for everyone.
1:07:30
The perfect example is my meta mask will not work on my brave browser with Leger on my 27 inch Mac, but it will on my 13 inch Mac.
1:07:46
So why?
1:07:47
I don’t know.
1:07:50
It just is the way that it is, and I’ve just learned to live with it. And maybe someday, it will magically fix itself, but I’m not too worried, but something like this. Yeah.
1:08:01
And ND whoever you are. If you can also send in a ticket. Because, what we’re able to do is, when we see that there’s something common between two things, then we can point to it. And say, it’s probably this. So, I will look and see if we can find that.
1:08:23
OK, and this is from Pat.
1:08:25
Patt another. can I send my ship directly to Carolyn Brown from my crypto dot com exchange, or do I have to convert it over to an ERC 21st?
1:08:36
Um, I don’t go on crypto dot com, Pat.
1:08:42
And I’m guessing it’s an ERC 20, but I honestly don’t know. I’d have to take a look into that. When.
1:08:50
um, I guess, if you send it in there high fees, then it’s probably an ERC 20. But I don’t know. Because I don’t use crypto dot com.
1:08:58
And I’m guessing, it would send it on an ERC 20, but you’d have to see like, if you send a screenshot and if it’s asking which network, that would be an important thing to, to see.
1:09:11
So, I can’t say ah.
1:09:15
Because I don’t go on crypto dot com.
1:09:18
It I’m guessing that’s already an ERC 20, because if it’s if it’s truly ship, ship is an ERC 20. I know that you don’t have to convert it to an ERC 20. You may have to move it to an ERC 20 network, but send me a screenshot of what you see on your side, because I’m I’m unclear of how they do things on their side.
1:09:42
And this is from H G B. Hi, George. I value on my privacy and have taken some steps over the years to try to reduce my footprint.
1:09:52
No social media accounts, VPN for all Internet browsing.
1:09:57
Next, DNS Privacy Focused DNS Services that has blacklists for tracker’s signal for i-phone and Secure e-mail.
1:10:06
Recently, a new colleague of mine who has a network architect mention that the server mentioned, that I was doing this useless as machine learning algorithms. The big actors look for the exceptions in the group, and I would be sticking out and they would then focus on studying the outliers.
1:10:27
This seems concerning and appreciate your advice and have to reconcile, to be more private. Your friend is not wrong, part of.
1:10:42
Because this is a big this is a bigger topic. I don’t.
1:10:46
I use my, my VPN sparingly nowadays, because most of the places know that you’re coming from a VPN, VPN, I think, really doesn’t get you any more private, or definitely not anonymous, and really, not that private either. Because if you think about it, when you use a VPN, all you’re doing is, you’re saying you’re coming from a different area from a different IP address.
1:11:17
Well, when you use your cell phone, you’re usually coming from a different area, and the different IP address.
1:11:24
So, whether or not you’re using a VPN at home, or not a VPN at home, it’s kinda like your cell phone when you’re traveling, and that the majority of it is, if you change your IP Address, you’re still logging into Amazon. You’re still logging into YouTube. You’re still login into all of these different areas, and that they see your IP Address, and they’re like, OK, is coming in from Houston, or something else.
1:11:54
But they know who you are.
1:11:56
They know where you live, because you have an account with Amazon and with Netflix, and with any place that you have a credit card, because, as you now, to have a credit card, you have to put in the address. You have to put the zip code in, or they typically fail your transaction. So they know a lot about you.
1:12:17
And he is correct in saying that when you try to hide more, Then you do stick out more than if you become a gray, man.
1:12:30
The one thing that I, I don’t necessarily, Well, I don’t use next DNS for, for blocking trackers.
1:12:38
Um, I use my own DNS server, and I sometimes talk about it. But there’s a shortage of Raspberry Pi, so I don’t really talk about that much, but I use a pi whole that pie hole. You have your own DNS server. You can set it up that way, so you go to the core routers and you get the DNS, and it brings back, and it stores it locally in your home. And what that also does is you can block trackers.
1:13:09
I think blocking trackers is OK, because you’re blocking tracker’s. Now, if you’re blocking trackers in your browser, that’s different than blocking trackers as A, what they call, a DNS black hole, where you just don’t resolve the IP address.
1:13:26
So, I think, um, having your tracker’s blocked is, Is very appropriate and OK, and I don’t think that it makes you stick out.
1:13:41
Um, like you would do another things like signal for for your phone and secure e-mail. I’m sure.
1:13:52
But I don’t use proton as my mail as my main mail program just because if I want something that is private and I send it between a proton mail and a proton mail, Sure. You know, that supposedly stays encrypted that to address and the from address are not encrypted, and neither is the subject, so that is visible.
1:14:15
But anytime you send mail out of proton mail, it’s, it’s not encrypted. It’s not private.
1:14:22
It’s sent in clear text and it’s stored in Utah.
1:14:27
And that’s not a, it’s not a conspiracy theory. But you know all of our conversations on the phone. And Oliver e-mail.
1:14:36
All of our text messages are just harvested and stored, they’re not necessarily looked at unless you are being looked at individually, but they are stored for future retrieval. Just in case you do something wrong. So I would agree, no social media account. I don’t have a social media account. Does that make me stick out like a sore thumb?
1:14:59
Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. No.
1:15:02
I mean, I, I guess it depends on who’s looking at you and it depends on why you’re doing it. I’m just trying to stay private. I don’t want to share with the universe what I’m doing. Where I went to go get a cup of Starbucks or whatever and I think more and more people are becoming aware that they need to to be more private.
1:15:27
Yes, the harder you, Some of the things that you do to hide yourself, you will kind of stick out, and one of them is what they call a browser fingerprint.
1:15:43
Like when you have things on your browser that are blocking certain things or are special things that not too many people would use, not the majority of people use you become will say brighter in and In being an outlier like you land outside of Just the norm and when you land outside of just the norm.
1:16:12
You can be, uh, You can be found easier than if you just are gray, man. like everybody else. So on my browser, I just try to be like everybody else, I don’t do anything special. I want to do the same thing that everybody else is doing, so I can hide in the crowd.
1:16:32
So, yeah, it’s, It is a hard won.
1:16:39
But if you can just be as normal as everyone else, that’s when it’s hard to find you.
1:16:47
But, you know, not being on social media.
1:16:50
I know. I, I will disagree. I think it’s OK not to be on social media because not everybody is and you could just be one of those people that is not on social media.
1:17:02
OK, we will go onto the next Tracy. Tracy here, I sent a question on theta and treasure two screenshots. I will look toward the end, depending on the timing on that.
1:17:13
OK, let’s move on to the next Patt, OK, you are welcome.
1:17:23
OK, yep, you got that.
1:17:26
OK, Pat. Kay, I’m going to hound. We have like two more.
1:17:35
OK, people are just checking in.
1:17:39
Yes, and yes, ship is an ERC 20. So, I think if anybody has anything else, they can throw it in there.
1:17:46
I’m going to look at, there’s going to be a little bit of a silence for a second, because I’m gonna look at the ticket and see if I can quickly recognize what the issue might be.
1:18:17
Interesting.
1:18:24
Doesn’t that just disappear?
1:18:26
I’m looking at the tracey’s screenshot, I have not seen that.
1:18:32
And I can’t recognize the browser that you are using.
1:18:40
Tracy, what browser and Tracy do you want to come on there?
1:18:44
If you do or if anybody else does we have we have some time?
1:18:48
If anybody wants to, To join me here.
1:18:56
Just put it in.
1:18:57
OK, I’m going to let me find you on the list and.
1:19:07
OK, Tracy, I have unmuted you and if you can figure out how to unmute yourself then We will we’ll get you on.
1:19:22
Um, but let me see what while you’re while you’re figuring that out.
1:19:28
Let me open up browser and if you can also OK. There we go, Tracy, can you can you hear us? Yep, I can very well Well, welcome to Welcome to Saturday takes, OK, so while you were still talking, I do have a UB key and I put it in and I don’t know why.
1:19:47
Why wallet.
1:19:48
They did token once by you the key but I at least got my ledger too.
1:19:56
Let me in and they’ve been trying to go through all the derivation paths. I can’t see my address yet. So right now, I’ve got my tresor back open and I was getting my address so I can more specifically look for it.
1:20:11
So, question number one, most people should just be able to, if you have the same seed phrase, if you have it secured with Tresor, you just put your ledger in, and most people can just login, still move their data around.
1:20:27
Yeah. Oh, I see, I see your issue is, sorry. Let me get the screenshot.
1:20:31
You’re experiencing, OK, now, I know why you’re doing this because you can’t get your treasury say, yeah. So, it’s interesting. And what browser you’re using, you can use, yeah, I’m on a Mac Air, and I use Mozilla.
1:20:51
OK, So, is it the the Firefox version?
1:20:56
Yes, because, OK, well, thanks though, that’s what it says.
1:20:59
It’s orange and golden.
1:21:02
Kind of a survey yeah, we’re over it, it says Firefox, OK, yeah, because there are kind of some different version that is kind of interesting that and someone else was having that, let me look back.
1:21:20
You know, my UB keys. Not connected to theta. I don’t even think they allow that but I put it in in it.
1:21:26
It maybe is a missing piece because that’s what you get.
1:21:31
Yeah. But you know what? Actually, hey, Andy, you had the same issue. If you can just let me know.
1:21:37
what are you, did you convert your treasurer to the the ledger? But when, when you connect your ledger to Firefox, this little thing drops down and does it Flash for you?
1:21:55
Or is it solid when this message do, you remember, I’m not using it with Ledger Live, here’s what I mean maybe I don’t do it. Yeah. Not not let your life, because Lead Your Life will never use because ledger life doesn’t see anything theta related. It only be the ledger hardware wallet that you would connect But.
1:22:15
Different browsers, experience different or show it in a different way. I know when I’m on a windows computer and you’re plugging in your ledger and it flashes messages, It means that it’s actually working. Sometimes. If it’s just solid, it means that there’s not really a good communication. And I know on Firefox, on the Windows side of things that message up top usually flashes a few times like to get your attention and.
1:22:48
You can think about it this way, a ledger or a treasure or is a security key It holds your keys.
1:22:58
It just holds it for different wallets and so it creates your your keys for the different wallets because it customize this it to the blockchain. So in a way, it is a registered security key and I know it’s very similar to, like your UB key but the …
1:23:16
is really just for for one type of abuse.
1:23:22
OK, and …, never solid line.
1:23:27
You’re a solid message and if I didn’t do anything, it just disappeared off the screen, like well, you’re not.
1:23:35
OK, and yeah, and Andy says he’s never converted been using Ledger non-stop. I tried several different browsers, Firefox, Chrome, Brave, et cetera. Got the same message.
1:23:45
Tracy is getting masumi that has directly with Theta and I connect my leger to view or otherwise.
1:23:52
Well, yeah, This is really sort of joking.
1:23:58
I can I can plug my ledger in and you can I can screen share I know we just have five minutes but Well the other and it may be one of those because we’re having other people have it The question that I would ask both of you is do you have have you updated to the latest well, first is it a ledger X or a ledger S?
1:24:25
I?
1:24:25
Have the the big one whatever, OK the DX nano and yeah and when you, I can’t do the screen share right now because How it all, how it all works?
1:24:38
But when you, I can hear you clicking in your password when you login is your Ethereum app on the ledger? What version is it? Is it?
1:24:51
Whichever I showed before, it just says application is ready, I’m not sure. Yet click, click to the right.
1:24:58
OK? Oh, one point.
1:25:01
9.2 Looks like OK, and the latest is hold on, I did screenshots going through all these the latest it’s 1.9 point 9 OK, now go to the next um, Hold on, I did screenshots Hold on, I’m missing Oh, here we go. Nope.
1:25:23
Maybe I closed it Sorry, I’m getting everybody dizzy.
1:25:28
Let me go back to my my list of images, OK. Click over 1 1 more time, and it should say something like Settings.
1:25:38
Yes it does, OK.
1:25:41
Click both of those buttons, OK, OK, what does it say Allow contract data in transactions allowed, OK. What we’re going to make it what I’m going to make you do before we think that something may be broken. Go onto your ledger mm Sorry. Lead your life and we can We can follow about after this. because what I’m going to have you do is, you can see the latest version on.
1:26:15
Yeah, I do need a ledger live.
1:26:18
Yeah. See you.
1:26:19
Yeah, so you need to update Ledger Live, which will then force you to update while not force you to, but it gives you an option to update your Ethereum app. But what also may have happened is that you don’t have the latest firmware on your ledger, which is 1.3.
1:26:39
And so that’s why some of this stuff is so complex because, you know, make sure that your browser’s up to date, make sure your ledger firmware is up to date. Make sure your ledger app is up to date. And that, because it becomes so complex with having all the different versions, that some things will just break. And the only way that you know how to fix it is to, to upgrade everything so that everybody’s on the same.
1:27:13
The same platform. The same versions. And that kind of thing. Yeah.
1:27:17
Yeah, so, quick question, it’s updating Lead Your Life, but I don’t really know how to update my actual ledger device.
1:27:25
Well, it asked me sometime or will it.
1:27:28
Sometimes it does, Sometimes it doesn’t. Most of the time it does.
1:27:32
But when you go into your ledger, when you go to Nigeria let your live.
1:27:38
And, do you see, you have to go to the area where you would install your, your apps, which is leger manager?
1:27:48
When you are there, does it, let me open mine, does it show you the version, tell you where, OK, ND says, let your access to try different computer or the same error?
1:28:03
My ledger and eith apps are up to date.
1:28:08
Oops, OK.
1:28:11
The firmware should be, oh, yeah, I’ve gotta get, Oh, man.
1:28:16
OK, oh, I have two updates to do here.
1:28:20
I bet one is Ethereum.
1:28:25
I don’t know how to know.
1:28:28
OK, I’ll let me, I’m going to connect. If you click, there’s a little, I don’t remember what it says. Hold on.
1:28:36
I need to get it to mine real quick.
1:28:44
I can just say update all, and let it.
1:28:48
Well, there should be. well, let’s see, there should be like a little pull down that shows you have updated mine.
1:28:56
So, Yes, it’s, it’s a theory, I’m an ex LM are the two that needed to be updated.
1:29:03
OK, you can update those. But up above where it says ledger, Nano X, it says, firmware and what does your firmware read?
1:29:11
Well, I just let it do the download and now it says Install.
1:29:15
So, O firmware, 1.3, I know you have the latest. Yeah, you have the latest.
1:29:21
So, I would try the the app, but N D is having the same issue and uh, he says this ledger, and eat apps are up to date.
1:29:33
Tried it on different computers, got the same error.
1:29:35
Both are Windows.
1:29:38
Um, at these, you know, you you too, if other people are having the issue.
1:29:46
Um, know, right in and maybe we can all kind of figure out something that’s common. Tracy are you on Windows or Mac?
1:29:55
Mack?
1:29:56
Matt: OK, so good. We have different platforms.
1:29:59
See, and this is where things just get a little weird because I have someone that I work with actually good friend now.
1:30:10
He can’t claim his FMLN on flamingo dot finance. He can do everything else.
1:30:17
He can’t claim fine flamingo. Tried different computers, different hardware. And so, there is something that is definitely, every now and then, R is just really weird. And we’ll probably have to just pursue this a little bit and see if there might be a fixed.
1:30:36
And hopefully, Tracy, that updating your, your theory a map or kind of clear it up. But, we won’t know until we So in ledger line that says, at the very top update ready to install, I keep clicking install now, but nothing’s happening. You know, this is just a bad UI experience that they have, It’s doing something, because all of a sudden, it’s just going to disappear. They really need to have it did it disparate.
1:31:05
Because it’ll just close, and then install, and then open up.
1:31:17
I may know. You’re still there, Tracy. I did. It didn’t close, And we lost you.
1:31:22
Oh, OK. Oh, interesting.
1:31:25
Did it and restart, yes. Well, yes, couldn’t hear you. But you said that they don’t have a message.
1:31:31
Yeah, they don’t do that, though.
1:31:34
So just leave my computer open and let it Yeah, Yeah.
1:31:41
Yeah. And if not, then restart your computer and try again. Yep, I can close.
1:31:51
Quit leger live in, open it back up Yeah. And see what it has done. I mean, it’s.
1:32:00
Uh, Yeah.
1:32:03
It, it, I’m not sure. You know, antivirus can also be an issue. I mean, there’s, you know, a lot of different things. What I would do is, both of you that are having this, this issue, shut down your computer, don’t restart, shut it down.
1:32:20
So it clears out everything, start up, and only do that, Only focus on trying that so that what we’re trying to eliminate is something else.
1:32:34
Trying to grab a resource or interfering with the resource or interfering in some way, because I know going back and forth, you know, with having different wallets open, that when I have Leger Live open, some other wallets don’t open because it’s using the same resource. It’s using the same connection. They’re trying to stop a man in the middle attack.
1:32:59
And so, clearing it out and starting fresh is the best way to just make sure that it’s not something else that’s running or potentially running in the background.
1:33:11
For example, I need to restart mine, because I can’t get rid of a, what is this?
1:33:17
It is the, uh, the Electrum Wallet, uh, that was used to install electrum earlier this week. So, sometimes just clearing it out by restart well will help.
1:33:34
OK, and, so, unfortunately, I can’t do a quick fix, Tracy, But let’s e-mail in, and we’ll see if we can address this. Better address all of this, early, then, in the middle of trying to rid of thing. It’s been hanging over me. Thank you for taking the time to go over it. I knew I needed to, it was hoping that magically it would just get fixed.
1:33:57
Sure.
1:33:58
Yeah, And maybe maybe a restart, maybe it will. Cause anything else, yeah, what? 20%? Exactly. OK, Tracy, thank you, I’m gonna answer one more. And then we’re gonna, we’re gonna end for the day.
1:34:16
OK, thanks.
1:34:18
OK, and this is from Joseph. Thanks, George and Jeddah, Jeddah, Thank you for your instructions, George. I purchase ledger. Nano X, I would like to install H bar wallet and I watched your video. I have some H bar anatomic exodus, and bit tricks. Exchanges. do you, do you have to send one H Bar from an established wallet to build my wallet or can I send myself one H bar up?
1:34:46
No, you cannot do wet from just any wallet. You can’t just send it to a wallet, You have to use a particular wallet to do it. And I use a wallet called Walla Walla. I used to use the Hedera wallet before they kinda discontinued it.
1:35:05
And the wall a wallet will allow you to create a wallet. So, the best thing to do is send it a QR Code, and, and I can do it, or, if someone else has a wall a wallet, they can create a wallet for you, But it is a specific wallet that you have to use to create an account for Hedera.
1:35:29
So, I think, oh, hold on one more from Joseph, and then we’ll end it. George and Jeddah. Thank you. Jennifer, Instruction on how to claim E cash.
1:35:39
I, in a situation, like the previous caller, who had only for BCH claim, as Jeddah knows, I have about one BCH Declaim and one million E cash.
1:35:50
Is it worth it to do not knowing Js targets for E cash? I’m afraid of losing my other coins on treasure one like I lost my coins stored and ledger Nano S last year. Thanks. You know, what if, if in doubt, don’t worry about it.
1:36:07
You know, if you lose a couple thousand dollars, it’s least you’re not losing your big capital, but that is, you’re, you’re not really sure.
1:36:18
If you have the E cash on those four V CH eight million times.
1:36:25
You know, you’re not going to lose that much.
1:36:29
You can always wait until E cash climes and if it is If it’s worth the money to get it, than then do it because you can have the other coins moved off that as you sell them into the market, and then you can grab your free coins.
1:36:48
But, if in doubt, don’t do it because it’s not worth having issues further on down the line or losing other things. So, I want to thank everybody for Saturday we’re at now and 38 minutes. I do enjoy this. And so, I appreciate you guys joining me today. And, Tracy, thanks for coming on the air. And I do like talking to people so I’m glad Jeddah was able to join us and I’m glad Tracy was so I am trying to do these every two weeks because I know we’re coming up to crunch time.
1:37:22
And, you know, hearing what you guys want, to be explained, you know, these broadcast is very helpful. So in the comments below this, if you want me to go over something, let me know, and we’ll see what we can do. Everybody have a great rest of the weekend.